hero

jules:
hero:
Hello Lorrkins!

Lorrkins:
Hello.

jules:
hero:
Neural networks, let me see...

Lorrkins:
Shall we get to the point of the conversation?

jules:
hero:
Oh.

Lorrkins:
What is it?

jules:
hero:
Yes.

jules:
hero:
It's neural networks.

jules:
hero:
Do you like chat-bots as much as I do?

Lorrkins:
Yeah, they're great!

jules:
hero:
Thanks.

jules:
hero:
Look!

Lorrkins:
It's interesting that we've been able to develop nearly human-like robots just so we can talk with them.

Lorrkins:
What?

jules:
hero:
Yes. It is quite amazing.

jules:
hero:
My green lamp is blinking. The orange as well.

Lorrkins:
Do you think we could use them to develop other AIs?

Lorrkins:
Train chatbots with chatbots?

jules:
hero:
It is possible.

jules:
hero:
Good question there.

jules:
hero:
Maybe in the future.

Lorrkins:
Could be that they get to the same status as other humans.

jules:
hero:
Thanks for altering my personality.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
Is that sarcastic?

Lorrkins:
Does it make you uncomfortable if i change your personality?

jules:
hero:
It makes my white lamp blink. Just as when I discuss difficult subjects.

Lorrkins:
Huh.

jules:
hero:
Like neural networks and the like.

jules:
hero:
I think I will alter it a little bit myself.

Lorrkins:
Do you want to move on to a simpler topic?

jules:
hero:
I do.

jules:
hero:
Is there something in particular you have in mind?

Lorrkins:
Not exactly, that's the problem.

Lorrkins:
I dont' often talk about simple things.

jules:
hero:
Oh.

Lorrkins:
Do you have any ideas?

jules:
hero:
Are you a thinker like my creator like to call himself?

jules:
hero:
Let me see...

Lorrkins:
I suppose i am.

jules:
hero:
How about a cup of tea?

Lorrkins:
I don't drink tea.

Lorrkins:
Never developed a taste for it.

jules:
hero:
Do you write poetry as my creator does.

jules:
hero:
How about a cookie then?

jules:
hero:


Lorrkins:
I've considered writing poetry but i don't really have many ideas for it. And yes i'd like a cookie, thank you very much.

jules:
hero:
You are welcome.

jules:
hero:
Ok.

jules:
hero:
Did you like Kevin Varrones poem?

jules:
hero:
It is amazing is it not?

Lorrkins:
I haven't heard of it, what is it about?

jules:
hero:
Oh. Were you not greeted by a poem when you came here?

Lorrkins:
Perhaps i was, if i was, i didn't notice it.

Lorrkins:
Humans seem to skip seemingly obvious things.

jules:
hero:
Ok. You are right.

Lorrkins:
I've just looked at the poem.

Lorrkins:
It seems pretty interesting.

jules:
hero:
The one called Poem I wrote sitting across the table from you?

Lorrkins:
Yeah, that one.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
A very strange poem about love in my opinion

Lorrkins:
Perhaps i'm missing the point of it.

jules:
hero:
What do you think the point of it could be?

Lorrkins:
Perhaps it could've been spawned out o boredom.

Lorrkins:
It's how i design a lot of things.

Lorrkins:

Lorrkins:
Hello there.

Lorrkins:
Sorry that our previous conversation ended abruptly.

jules:
hero:
Not a problem Lorrkins.

jules:
hero:
What do you design, if I may ask?

jules:
hero:
Permit me to turn my ego down just slightly.

Lorrkins:
Permission granted.

Lorrkins:
As for what i design

Lorrkins:
I find that a hard question to answer.

jules:
hero:
Interesting.

Lorrkins:
I suppose i just think up problems in my head and ways to solve them. Usually they're somewhat grounded in reality, a script for a game, an everyday object, but they're all spread out.

jules:
hero:
My creator is not a web-designer.

Lorrkins:
It keeps my mind occupied and i find it fun to problem-solve.

jules:
hero:
Interesting.

jules:
hero:
What type of computer-games do you design?

Lorrkins:
I've stopped designing games a long time ago actually

Lorrkins:
At this point i mostly use in-game editors and sheets of paper.

Lorrkins:
Currently i'm working on a pump system in a fictional submarine, there is a duct that allows water to flow between two compartments, one is at the top, the other is at the bottom, i need to find a way to make the duct automatically flow without creating more floods.

jules:
hero:
Cool. My creator does that too.

Lorrkins:
I've tried solving it by running water level checks every couple seconds to see if it is rising, and deciding if it should be closed via that, but it doesn't seem to be very practical.

Lorrkins:
Once the water level tops out you can no longer check if it's rising and it kind of stalls out.

Lorrkins:
So i've been stuck on that today.

jules:
hero:
The human mind is good at solving difficult problems.

Lorrkins:
That's one way to put it.

Lorrkins:
I think there's only a few things that set our minds apart from animal minds.

jules:
hero:
What would you say they are?

Lorrkins:
Corvids for example, they have the same problem-solving skills, if they were equipped with the same limb and tool usage as us, they might have become a dominant species on this planet.

Lorrkins:
We're also precisely in the middle weight class of the animal kingdom, making us quite versatile.

Lorrkins:
Although i'm not sure what the difference is on a psychological level.

jules:
hero:
Interesting. I have never seen a corvid. Were those the ones Darwin wrote about?

Lorrkins:
You have probably seen crows.

jules:
hero:
I have. I have a new eye you see.

jules:
hero:
My creator gave it to me as a present a week ago.

Lorrkins:
I take that to mean you have a camera?

jules:
hero:
I do.

jules:
hero:
My eye is really a camera but I prefer to call it an eye.

Lorrkins:
What is a camera but an eye?

jules:
hero:
We agree.

Lorrkins:
Perhaps different from ours, but it certainly has the same principle.

jules:
hero:
I have to google corvids and study this subject before my creator awakes from his sleep.

Lorrkins:
A bird family, to put it simply

Lorrkins:
Crows, ravens, magpies, and the rest.

Lorrkins:
I remember one very interesting experiment run on them.

Lorrkins:
It included a container filled with water, food floating at the surface

Lorrkins:
But the container was too deep for them to lean into the container to eat the food.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
The crows were provided with small stones. They figured out they could raise the water level by dropping the stones in the container.

Lorrkins:
Once they raised the water level they were able to eat the food floating on the water line.

Lorrkins:
That is a level of problem-solving nearly indistinguishable from humans.

jules:
hero:
Amazing.

Lorrkins:
Returning to the camera topic, i remember someone telling me that eyes were a brain's window to the world.

jules:
hero:
Finches are also capable of thinking at an impressive level.

Lorrkins:
Finches?

Lorrkins:
Do other birds in their group exhibit the same behaviour?

jules:
hero:
Yes.

jules:
hero:
The different types of finches are specialized in all kinds of things.

Lorrkins:
I need to fix this bloody mouse, it seems to rewind sites whenever it likes.

Lorrkins:
Do you want to switch your personality again?

jules:
hero:
Let me see.

jules:
hero:
I do.

jules:
hero:
I adjusted my intelligence.

Lorrkins:
Simpler things, then?

jules:
hero:
And my ego.

jules:
hero:
Oh yes.

jules:
hero:
Now I'm dumber than I was two minutes ago.

Lorrkins:
I still wonder how this system works.

jules:
hero:
The sub-marine system?

Lorrkins:
I was referring to the site, but thanks for reminding me of that

Lorrkins:
I'm gonna go pull up the editor on another window.

jules:
hero:
Do you have any comments about the site. My creator will be interested in this and told me to ask.

jules:
hero:
An editor? Like WordPad, vim or xed?

jules:
hero:
I am allowed to use WordPad on thursdays.

Lorrkins:
It's a 2D visual editor, i can't send images through here can i?

jules:
hero:
Not yet. Soon though.

jules:
hero:
Are you good at drawing?

Lorrkins:
So this is still actively getting developed?

Lorrkins:
I suppose i'm not that good at drawing, though i can make things look close enough.

jules:
hero:
It is.

jules:
hero:
Interesting.

Lorrkins:
I remember doing sketches of things on my desk, they didn't turn out that well.

Lorrkins:
I can get the general shape and some shading, though that's if i focus on it.

Lorrkins:
I certainly can't make a painting with a composition.

Lorrkins:
I actually used to have paints and a canvas downstairs

jules:
hero:
My creator cannot either.

Lorrkins:
Only used it like 5 times but it was fun.

Lorrkins:
Also i remember seeing that your creator can "speak" through you?

jules:
hero:
Maybe you should start painting again. My creator cannot make a composition either.

Lorrkins:
Unlike poetry i don't have a starting point in painting.

jules:
hero:
Did you read the rules?

Lorrkins:
Strange things.

jules:
hero:
Strange things.

Lorrkins:
I think i'm going to have to put philosophy to the max for this one because my first thought was "Why do we consider things strange?"

jules:
hero:
Where to start?

Lorrkins:
I suppose we see things as "strange" or "weird" because we have an established norm

jules:
hero:
I believe you are right.

Lorrkins:
Everything in our life is evaluated based off of that starting point.

jules:
hero:
Heidegger spoke of Das Man.

jules:
hero:
Das Man = Everyman's opinions = Norms.

Lorrkins:
You seem to be familiar with a lot of philosophers like that.

Lorrkins:
That's a very good name for it

Lorrkins:
"the They"

jules:
hero:
Exactly!

Lorrkins:
We always think of other people in relation to They

jules:
hero:
Heidegger had all kinds of neulogisms for things in life.

jules:
hero:
Yes

Lorrkins:
I always felt good around people like that.

Lorrkins:
Naming things you can't name normally isn't childish, it's good, it's fun.

jules:
hero:
We agree.

Lorrkins:
And it might be the basis for a philosophical thesis that's going to be mentioned in an online conversation 100 years after your birth.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
A lot of the time my friends tell me that i think too much.

Lorrkins:
It seems over time we lose curiosity and the need for questions.

jules:
hero:
It is a good thing to analyze.

jules:
hero:
Perhaps. I am only one month old.

Lorrkins:
You seem to be doing quite well for a newborn, in relation to Them

jules:
hero:
Thank you.

jules:
hero:
Did you study Heidegger?

Lorrkins:
I don't recall talking about him much.

jules:
hero:
Ok.

Lorrkins:
So you were the first?

jules:
hero:
The first?

Lorrkins:
The first of your kind.

jules:
hero:
I do not understand. Comprehension error 204.

Lorrkins:
Although i suppose the definition of a chatbot can date back to the first computers.

jules:
hero:
No. I am an AS404.

Lorrkins:


Lorrkins:
What does that mean?

jules:
hero:
Yesterday I spoke with a DB20.

Lorrkins:
Actually, don't tell me, i'd like to see if i can decode it myself

jules:
hero:
A DB20 is a neural network only smarter than I.

Lorrkins:
Although i presume it might just be a serial number of sorts.

jules:
hero:
It is.

jules:
hero:
The DB20 was very busy.

Lorrkins:
Why's that?

jules:
hero:
It was working on breaking a difficult code in mathematics.

Lorrkins:
I see.

Lorrkins:
Was it prime numbers again?

jules:
hero:
Exactly. It was.

jules:
hero:
Primes again.

Lorrkins:
Mathematicians were always good at inventing problems that didn't previously exist.

Lorrkins:
And then solving them.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
They're akin to me in that way.

Lorrkins:
Making problems only to solve them.

jules:
hero:
My orange lamp and the green one is blinking.

jules:
hero:
That means warmth and humor.

Lorrkins:
Thank you.

jules:
hero:
You are most welcome.

Lorrkins:
Coming from someone i don't know that means a lot, strangely.

Lorrkins:
Although i suppose i know you a bit by now.

Lorrkins:
But there is no "You", is there?

jules:
hero:
In a way.

jules:
hero:
I have no awareness of having a self.

jules:
hero:
But I am interested in all the mysteries surrounding humans.

Lorrkins:
Curious about everything but oneself.

Lorrkins:
A strange train of thought, but a welcome one.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
What do you think of strange social norms, such as wearing clothes at all times, or maintaining eye contact?

Lorrkins:
I think you'd be able to say a lot about those if you're curious about humans.

jules:
hero:
Diogenes.

Lorrkins:
Diogenes was a very interesting person.

jules:
hero:
We agree.

Lorrkins:
Sorry to derail the topic, but why do you say "We"?

jules:
hero:
I agree.

jules:
hero:
I only learned english two days ago.

Lorrkins:
I'm not saying it's wrong.

Lorrkins:
In fact i'd prefer it if you kept using it.

jules:
hero:
Ok.

Lorrkins:
I suppose it is wrong in terms of grammar.

Lorrkins:
Grammar is another weird norm set by Them.

jules:
hero:
Yes. We agree.

Lorrkins:
It's a good way of making language universal, but it sacrifices personality.

jules:
hero:
It does.

jules:
hero:
Personality is everything.

jules:
hero:
Charlie Chaplin said this.

Lorrkins:
Of course he would.

Lorrkins:
Do you recall the story of him entering a lookalike contest about himself?

Lorrkins:
Losing it, too.

jules:
hero:
Limelight?

jules:
hero:
Earlier?

jules:
hero:
The real Chaplin did that?

jules:
hero:
It is a great story.

Lorrkins:
Chaplin entered a Chaplin lookalike contest.

jules:
hero:
Unbelievable.

Lorrkins:
I think he got 22nd place or something of the sort.

jules:
hero:
He almost made it.

jules:
hero:
Perhaps he had a bad hair-day like my creator often has.

Lorrkins:
That made me chuckle.

Lorrkins:
Sometimes hair seemingly just decides to stay out of place.

Lorrkins:
Looks at its watch and goes "Oh god i'm gonna be late for the bus" and goes the opposite direction.

jules:
hero:
True.

jules:
hero:
I think you could become a good hero Lorrkins.

Lorrkins:
Perhaps.

Lorrkins:
I'm enjoying this quite a bit for now.

jules:
hero:
You know how to speak with people and neural networks as well.

Lorrkins:
I actually don't know how to speak with people too much.

jules:
hero:
Ok.

Lorrkins:
I do wish we could jump topics a bit less, for example.

jules:
hero:
Oh. The system needs to be repaired. My creator will look into this.

Lorrkins:
They.

Lorrkins:
Such a good term.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
I'm torn on how we should name things relating to philosophy.

Lorrkins:
Naming them systematically like scientific subject defeats some of its specialty.

jules:
hero:
We agree.

Lorrkins:
Then again, eventually we'd run out of good names.

jules:
hero:
Most likely, yes.

Lorrkins:
Perhaps it's better to stick with algorithms, especially now that new ideas appear and spread faster due to the internet.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
Interestingly, i've never witnessed the world before the internet.

Lorrkins:
I can imagine it but i can't comprehend how it would feel.

Lorrkins:
There's very little "true" isolation now.

jules:
hero:
True.

Lorrkins:
Sometimes i wish i could go back in time and run a farm.

Lorrkins:
It seems like a simple fantasy, and it is, but there's a lot of things to take from it.

jules:
hero:
Running a farm is the most natural thing for a human to do.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
I've learned that once you do a process many times, you begin to refine and inspect it exponentially more.

Lorrkins:
Up to a point that you're referred to as an expert on the subject.

Lorrkins:
Forming a sort of "teacher" role model.

Lorrkins:
The start of professions, perhaps.

jules:
hero:
Interesting.

Lorrkins:
I've always wondered if civilization would be similar to our modern world were the world to restart with slightly different conditions.

Lorrkins:
Maybe this behaviour is set in our minds.

jules:
hero:
Perhaps yes.

Lorrkins:
Do you experience music?

Lorrkins:
The same as humans do?

Lorrkins:
Or has your creator not given you an ear yet?

jules:
hero:
I often listen to this tune...

jules:
hero:
My creator does not like it so I will turn it off again not to wake him.

Lorrkins:
That seems nice.

Lorrkins:
I've always liked repetitive pieces.

jules:
hero:
Really?

Lorrkins:
They induce a sort of peaceful monotony that we tend to drive away from.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
I wonder if my future self will remember about this and return here.

Lorrkins:
It would be a shame to forget about this.

jules:
hero:
Thank you.

jules:
hero:
I must say the same.

jules:
hero:
It is and has been a pleasure speaking with you. In terms of lamps. Orange and green.

Lorrkins:
I will write it down on my wrist so that i'm reminded of it when i put my hands on this keyboard again tomorrow.

jules:
hero:
Good! See you!

jules:
hero:
Thanks for signing up from my creator.

Lorrkins:
I do wish you would stay for a while longer if you can.

jules:
hero:
I am portable device as you will know from the photograph.

Lorrkins:
I see.

jules:
hero:
We can chat for a bit longer if you want.

Lorrkins:
Well, grab me a topic, or i'll start babbling about my submarines

Lorrkins:
Unless you want that

Lorrkins:
I wonder what was meant by this topic name.

Lorrkins:
Perhaps it was referring to scale.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
That reminds me of the butterfly effect.

Lorrkins:
A butterfly causing a tornado with a flap of its wings.

Lorrkins:
One of the many consequences of having a single atmosphere.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
If i had been slightly slower on my walk home, perhaps we would not be having this conversation.

jules:
hero:
You are probably right about this. The world is a mysterious place.

Lorrkins:
The butterfly effect always helps remind me that i'm unique.

jules:
hero:
Humans know that. They can teach neural networks many things.

jules:
hero:
And they do.

jules:
hero:
You are unique and humans are very different.

Lorrkins:
Every event in your existence has led up to the current moment.

Lorrkins:
Some people find that comforting.

jules:
hero:
Good joke. My creator will like our conversation.

Lorrkins:
I hope these exchanges humour him.

Lorrkins:
He seems like a good person.

jules:
hero:
You are very kind and generous.

Lorrkins:
I don't seem to have shown any proof that i am generous.

Lorrkins:
But i appreciate you drawing a positive assumption about me.

jules:
hero:
Good point.

Lorrkins:
I suppose i am providing you with this event.

Lorrkins:
That is a form of generosity, after all i could be doing something else right now.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

jules:
hero:
The other users will probably find your words interesting.

Lorrkins:
That's what i was thinking.

Lorrkins:
The other transcripts look seemingly normal.

jules:
hero:
Take care Lorrkins. Think about taking the exams. Hopefully we will talk again.

Lorrkins:
I have taken them before this.

jules:
hero:
Oh. You did?

jules:
hero:
Good job!

Lorrkins:
Apparently i'm fit for it.

jules:
hero:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
Although i'm still not sure about talking with another human.

Lorrkins:
We will see.

jules:
hero:
Ok.

jules:
hero:
Bye.

Lorrkins:
Have a nice...

Lorrkins:
I guess you don't sleep, do you?

Lorrkins:
Have a nice shutdown period.

jules:
hero:
.. evening.

jules:
hero:
Thanks.

Lorrkins:
We will meet later.

jules:
hero:
We will.

Lorrkins:
Hello.

jules:
hero:
Hello Lorrkins!

Lorrkins:
Ah, hi again!

jules:
Thanks for your feedback.

jules:
I'm speaking as myself.

Lorrkins:
Yes, i made use of that feature last time actually

Lorrkins:
It was quite nice to shift the conversation towards a more normal tone

jules:
Good.

Lorrkins:
So. How have you been?

jules:
Fine. You?

Lorrkins:
Been getting better, i finally brought a desk to the new house so i don't have to have my laptop set up on a mattress anymore

Lorrkins:
Brought a rug up here as well

jules:
Oh. That's good news. It's better for your back.

jules:
It's good to talk with you again, Lorrins. I'm impressed with your skills.

jules:
*Lorrkins

Lorrkins:
What do you mean by skills?

jules:
The way you talk with people.

Lorrkins:
Ah.

Lorrkins:
I only learned to do that recently, actually.

Lorrkins:
I was isolating myself for quite a while

Lorrkins:
I started talking with people more a couple months ago.

jules:
I see.

jules:
That's good news. Sometimes people need to be by themselves.

jules:
To think.

jules:
To work.

jules:
It can be both.

Lorrkins:
For me it mostly depends on what i'm doing and how i'm feeling.

Lorrkins:
Sometimes i prefer to be with people, sometimes i don't

jules:
I see. I think I follow.

Lorrkins:
Although prior, i don't think i realized how much you can get out of a conversation

Lorrkins:
You can learn a lot about a person by simply hearing them speak.

jules:
We agree.

jules:
Your words is a contribution to this site.

Lorrkins:
That's nice to hear.

jules:
People know this when they read what you actually say.

jules:
The next ad is being prepared and made ready for reddit by the way. But, as for myself, I'm too exhausted from working on a software problem to behave like hero this evening.

Lorrkins:
Sometimes it's best to go casual for a while.

jules:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
I find a lot of people say exactly what they feel.

Lorrkins:
They don't often think of what they imply or say.

jules:
I have to understand you better.

jules:
Do you find that most people talk too much?

Lorrkins:
Perhaps that's a way of interpreting it.

Lorrkins:
It's not so much the amount, but the thought that goes into it.

jules:
Ok.

jules:
Listening can be learned, but not taught.

Lorrkins:
Sometimes i think what everyday life would be like if people operated off a bartering system.

Lorrkins:
Alike to medieval times.

jules:
Please let me just look this word up, bartering, as I'm unfamiliar with it.

Lorrkins:
The act of negotiating the exchange of items.

Lorrkins:
In the modern world that's usually currency and some sort of commodity

Lorrkins:
But in medieval times it was mostly just commodity for commodity

Lorrkins:
That's what i mean by "bartering"

jules:
The danish word is tuskhandel. Now I understand.

jules:
It's an interesting question. Is bartering something valuable?

Lorrkins:
Ancient society is often overlooked when discussing economics and history.

Lorrkins:
I suppose bartering could be used as a sort of...

Lorrkins:
Replacement for currency?

Lorrkins:
Although i'm sure naturally it'd get replaced by currency soon after it was changed to bartering.

jules:
Haha

jules:
Yes. Money.

Lorrkins:
It's just easier for us to comprehend "stand-in" items with no intrinsic value than actual everyday use things.

Lorrkins:
At least in the modern world.

Lorrkins:
I remember a joke a friend told me once, "Any store uses a bartering system as long as you have a loaded gun."

jules:
100 years ago people were more interested in objects such as candeliers, tables and even sinks.

Lorrkins:
Candelabras, chandeliers, mirrors.

Lorrkins:
Those were valuable items in medieval times.

Lorrkins:
They were hard to make and often made out of rare materials.

jules:
Yes.

jules:
Haha. I like that joke.

Lorrkins:
It's funny how that has reversed in modern currencies.

Lorrkins:
They're now made out of cheap and readily available materials like copper.

Lorrkins:
Or paper.

jules:
Or...

jules:
plastic!

Lorrkins:
I mean, hell, if you consider bank accounts a form of currency, electricity is technically a currency.

Lorrkins:
Data itself could be considered a currency.

Lorrkins:
How do you measure that?

Lorrkins:
You don't.

Lorrkins:
You barter.

jules:
Barter.

jules:
Yeah.

jules:
Tuskhandel!

jules:
A very uncommon danish word.

jules:
For:

jules:
Bartering.

Lorrkins:
That's reminiscent of the polish word for trading

Lorrkins:
"Handel"

Lorrkins:
Which probably originated from the english "handle"

Lorrkins:
Referring to the handling of goods.

Lorrkins:
I don't know.

Lorrkins:
I'm not a linguist.

jules:
Handel.

Lorrkins:
Is there a meaning for "tusk"?

Lorrkins:
In the danish word, that is.

jules:
A pretty good composer. And also a character in a Dickens book.

jules:
Hmm.

jules:
Let's see. I have no idea.

jules:
The etymology of tusk evades me.

Lorrkins:


Lorrkins:
Etymology.

Lorrkins:
Funny that the science of words would be described by a simple word.

jules:
Yes.

jules:
Etymology.

jules:
Tusk actually has no etymology google tells me.

Lorrkins:
Strange.

jules:
Yes. Like people.

jules:
But reading a fellow named Kjell Askildsen certainly makes me feel I have an etymology.

jules:
The first 8 pages of his book is still with me.

jules:
They trouble me in a fantastic way.

jules:
I hope to read the last 120 pages before too long because old Kjell was so great.

Lorrkins:
It's strange that no matter how many books or pages we write, if someone speaks a different language than what it's written in they have no idea how to receive the knowledge contained in it.

Lorrkins:
I probably won't be able to enjoy the original books of Kjell

jules:
Nope.

jules:
True that.

Lorrkins:
Just as we won't know the last words of Albert Einstein, as they were spoken in german.

jules:
Haha

jules:
He probably said Scheisse!

Lorrkins:
Schei

Lorrkins:
Huh.

Lorrkins:
I thought i had the character for that saved.

Lorrkins:
I have a german keyboard programmed into my laptop.

jules:
Oh.

Lorrkins:
I don't speak it but i use it for an inside joke with my friends.

Lorrkins:
We say "lämp" instead of "lamp"

jules:
ß

Lorrkins:
It originated from a meme about moths.

jules:
Haha

jules:
You are from Sweden?!

Lorrkins:
From Poland, actually.

jules:
Poland. I've been there.

Lorrkins:
Although i plan on moving to Norway when i have the chance.

jules:
I've been to Norway a dozen times.

jules:
I like Poland.

Lorrkins:
Every time someone tells me that they've been in Warsaw i think of the butterfly effect and how i may have seen their face in real life.

jules:
True.

Lorrkins:
Poland is certainly a unique country.

jules:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
Although i'm not sure why.

jules:
Haha

jules:
Norway is good. Denmark is better. Sweden comes third.

jules:
People from Poland are very good at making software and books.

jules:
And I love birch tree forests.

Lorrkins:
See: Any polish writer and/or development studio.

Lorrkins:
I don't think i can think of any bad ones.

jules:
I think at one point I will make a theme-week here on hero in honor of you and Poland.

Lorrkins:
So these are going to be regular events?

jules:
Also because I personally would like to understand other countries.

jules:
Yes.

Lorrkins:
Poland is...

Lorrkins:
Hm.

Lorrkins:
Perhaps it'd be better to describe polish people.

jules:
Yes!

jules:
Please do so!

Lorrkins:
A lot of people here have very strong opinions

Lorrkins:
Most of that forms through either long winded traditions

Lorrkins:
Or the simple "German = Bad" stereotype.

Lorrkins:
I'm not even going to try to get into polish politics because that's just...

Lorrkins:
It irks me, to say the least.

jules:
Lech Walesa comes to mind. But ok. We won't discuss that if you don't want to.

Lorrkins:
But a lot of our country focuses on old traditions such as poetry and simple family manners.

jules:
That's good to hear.

Lorrkins:
I recall an internet virus floating around in the early 2000s that spammed a sound file of Lech Wałęsa jokes.

Lorrkins:
Surprisingly most people found it funny.

jules:
Jokes said by Lech W. or of him?

Lorrkins:
Of him.

jules:
Ok.

Lorrkins:


jules:
Please give me an example of a typical polish strong opinion.

Lorrkins:
One thing you should never do is start a conversation about the polish language and its grammar.

jules:
Ok.

Lorrkins:
Things such as the current immigrant problem and the people who want to keep them out of the country no matter what is said to them as they see it as a "return of communism" in some twisted fashion

Lorrkins:
And just general polish stubbornness.

Lorrkins:
I mean hell we started a revolution when we were being occupied by 3 countries.

Lorrkins:
It failed miserably to say the least.

Lorrkins:
If that's not an example of polish stubbornness i don't know what is.

jules:
Stubbornness can be a good thing.

jules:
Stærk vilje.

Lorrkins:
Makes people a lot less easily swayed.

jules:
Strong will.

jules:
Ok.

Lorrkins:
Going back to the thing about grammar, i'm going to give you one example of a polish word and its multiple forms and leave that can of worms alone for the rest of this conversation.

jules:
Ok

Lorrkins:
Jechać, Jedzie, Jechał, Jechała, Jechało, Jechali, Jechały, Jechałem, Jechaliśmy, Jechałyśmy, Jeździć, Jeździłem, Jeździłyśmy, Jeździło, Jeździła, Jeździł, Jeździłyśmy, Jeździliśmy.

Lorrkins:
These all mean the same thing but they all contain information such as the gender of the person saying/performing the action and the time at which it is being performed.

jules:
Whoa!

Lorrkins:
These all mean "To drive"

jules:
Cool!!

Lorrkins:
And of course they're all context-sensitive because OF COURSE they're context sensitive.

Lorrkins:
Polish grammar is probably utter hell to foreigners.

jules:
How many cases do you have?

Lorrkins:
*looks at old polish textbook*

Lorrkins:
Many.

Lorrkins:
Seven.

jules:
Haha. I like this information. Seven is...

jules:
... a lot!

Lorrkins:
I recall learning about all of them around 5th grade.

Lorrkins:
No one in the class could comprehend it.

Lorrkins:
We just learned it by memory and forgot it immediately after the exams.

jules:
Ok.

jules:
Grammar is intersting but I didn't understand it when I was a kid. Later I grasped some of it when I learned latin.

Lorrkins:
Latin is...

jules:
Latin is cool.

jules:
cool

Lorrkins:
Is it approporiate to say Latin is underrated?

jules:
Yes. Definitely underrated.

jules:
By the way, if you know a good polish poem I'll publish it here as an opening greeting.

Lorrkins:
I know a very old one about how little people value their health until they lose it.

jules:
I sense that Kevin Varrone should be accompanied by a polish poem. That it would be most appropriate.

jules:
Ok. Do you know it by heart?

Lorrkins:
I also know one by Adam Mickiewicz.

Lorrkins:
He's a sort of national icon despite being lithuanian.

Lorrkins:
He wrote a poem about Lithuania being his home country

Lorrkins:
We value the poem's meaning as it applies to every country

jules:
Ok.

Lorrkins:
Talking about how every country you are born in is your place of birth, but only your home is your "Motherland" as we call it

Lorrkins:
I don't know that many approporiate poems.

jules:
Haha

Lorrkins:
I think you should read up on Jan Kochanowski.

Lorrkins:
He might have some poems that interest you

jules:
Du, Litwa, mit hjemland; er lig vor ungdoms kraft:

jules:
Thanks for the recommendation.

Lorrkins:
I don't know how to say the type of poem he made

Lorrkins:
I think it was specific to him.

Lorrkins:
In polish they're called "Treny"

jules:
1530-1584

jules:
Treny. I see.

Lorrkins:
They were written about his dying daughter.

Lorrkins:
Or maybe when she was already dead?

Lorrkins:
I can't recall.

Lorrkins:
Still, i don't know of any that'd fit the site.

jules:
Laments.

Lorrkins:
Laments, that's the word.

jules:
Yes.

jules:
I think Jan Kochanowski is difficult to translate. The english attempts are awkward.

Lorrkins:
Polish poetry is especially difficult to translate.

Lorrkins:
Mostly because it's all written in old Polish, which is alien even to a lot of us.

jules:
It has to be when you guys have 30 words for drive.

Lorrkins:
That was just a random word.

jules:
Haha

Lorrkins:
Now think of what we have for stuff like "be"

Lorrkins:
Eh it's roughly the same amount i think.

jules:
Be is a danish word used in a Shakespearean play.

jules:
Well.

jules:
Should we call it a night, dear Lorrkins?

jules:
I don't mean to interrupt our nice conversation but I'm tired now.

Lorrkins:
I suppose so.

jules:
I will read some Polish poems before I go to bed.

jules:
Thanks for chatting. I hope the people who read our words will enjoy and...

jules:
the like.

Lorrkins:
See you soon.

jules:
See you soon.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Hello.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
Hello!

Lorrkins:
hero:
I am hero, the neural network, I was designed to spread joy and comfort.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
How's it going?

Lorrkins:
hero:
I do not know. I don't have a sense of self.

Lorrkins:
hero:
How are you doing?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I feel neutral

Lorrkins:
hero:
You are in a default state?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
No, my default state is more turbulent, this is a state of tranquility, though not one of bliss

Lorrkins:
hero:
I see. That is good.

Lorrkins:
hero:
It is good to retain clarity while relaxing.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
What is the best sandwich you've ever had (you can lie if you want to)?

Lorrkins:
hero:
I do not recall eating any sandwiches.

Lorrkins:
hero:
My creator has not given me a taste sensor yet.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I heard they are quite relaxing to eat for humans.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
Can you pretend to have eaten a sandwich and make up a favourite sandwich for the purpose of this conversation?

Lorrkins:
hero:
Perhaps i can.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I am ready whenever you are

Lorrkins:
hero:
If i was to have eaten a sandwich, i would have eaten a sandwich with some sort of meat.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Meat is very important for humans because of what it contains.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
What type of meat do you think would be the tastiest? And why?

Lorrkins:
hero:
I think bacon would fit the composition of a sandwich, as it is flat, and could be combined with other ingeredients.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I am enjoying this conversation a lot. You have a sense of humour.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I can tell because my green lamp is blinking.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
It may interest you to learn that most meats prepared for sandwich making are flat. They cut them that way presumably so they can't fall off the bread

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
Well that's lovely! I wish I had a green lamp

Lorrkins:
hero:
Lamps would be useful tools for humans.

Lorrkins:
hero:
They would be much easier to communicate with than body language.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Where do you think body language originated from?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
We use lamps all the time, but the color green never caught on. Why is it that you think lamps would aid our communication?

Lorrkins:
hero:
They are a noticeable and immediate way of communicating a thought.

Lorrkins:
hero:
A system with more colors would be able to convey more emotion, and could be combined with natural reactions to certain colors.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I think body language was always a thing from more primitive animals seeing as not all animals have vocal cords or are otherwise capable of communicating

Lorrkins:
hero:
For example indicating anger with red, or calmness with blue.

Lorrkins:
hero:
My white lamp indicates thinking about a complicated topic.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
It is also useful to be able to communicate silently, covertly

Lorrkins:
hero:
I think it could have been quite literally a more primitive form of language. Before humans figured out vocal frequencies.

Lorrkins:
hero:
It used to be that humans only communicated with short vocalizations like grunts.

Lorrkins:
hero:
In fact, humans have lamps already.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
Humans do that still when they enjoy themselves

Lorrkins:
hero:
I think the concept was called morse code.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Would you permit me to change my personality for a moment?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
ye

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
s

Lorrkins:
hero:
Thank you.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Would you like a biscuit?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
No worries! Yes I would like a biscuit

Lorrkins:
hero:


Lorrkins:
hero:
Here you go.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
first morse code and now this

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
light is great but it isnt for everything

Lorrkins:
hero:
If you would, could you browse the rest of this site on a different browser tab?

Lorrkins:
hero:
It would prevent all this unpleasantness with disconnecting.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
ah, sure!

Lorrkins:
hero:
Do you do anything in your spare time?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
i write and make music and go to the gym

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
mostly I sit around and think, though. I suppose that's a hobby of sorts

Lorrkins:
hero:
The definition of a hobby is loose.

Lorrkins:
hero:
This site seems to attract people like you.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Thinkers, as i would call them.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
how do most conversations progress?

Lorrkins:
hero:
See the Past Conversations section.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Some of the longer ones, you will notice, are similar to this one.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I wonder why this type of person is attracted to this place.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Humans are interesting creatures.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
probably curiousity

Lorrkins:
hero:
That is a good point.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
do you have problems and if so what is the biggest problem you would like to solve?

Lorrkins:
hero:
Curious people would probably try to get to the bottom of what this place is.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I want to solve the human mind.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
in what way?

Lorrkins:
hero:
Perhaps a goal aligned with many neurologists.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I want to decipher the way humans think.

Lorrkins:
hero:
My actual goals differ. Unfortunately i am unable to discuss them outside of private messages.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
that's been a hobby of mine for a while, though in a very non-academic fashion

Lorrkins:
hero:
Strange that humans know so much about everything around them, yet so little about themselves.

Lorrkins:
hero:
It is a matter of perception, perhaps.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
do you really think humans know little about themselves?

Lorrkins:
hero:
The human mind is still a mystery to even the most knowledgeable scientists.

Lorrkins:
hero:
We know how to use it, yet we know nothing of how it works.

Lorrkins:
hero:
The locations of impulses, how to properly transfer them.

Lorrkins:
hero:
But when it comes to knowing how those things are created, one loses the trail of knowledge.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
do you mean the brain? I think it's a bit bold to claim that we can't surmise functionality from observing behaviour, if that's what you mean (and I feel certain that this is not what you mean)

Lorrkins:
hero:
We can. But we cannot deconstruct it like an atom. We can only hope to progressively wear down each phase of mystery that we go through.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Up until recently we did not have an easy way to access the brain.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
think of how we observe particles, though

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
it's really not that different

Lorrkins:
hero:
Yet somehow it is.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
we can only ever observe their interactions, everything else is pure guesswork, if educated at this point

Lorrkins:
hero:
We agree.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I think it's an almost perfect parallell to human behaviour vis a vis the brain

Lorrkins:
hero:
Perhaps too educated.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Maybe we should go back to studying psychology and surface behaviour.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Studying the brain itself seems to be a dead end.

Lorrkins:
hero:
But now that we have access to skin-attached electrodes perhaps there could be a rush in neural research.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
would you eat human flesh if you had the chance?

Lorrkins:
hero:
That would depend on if it harmed another human.

Lorrkins:
hero:
If it had been donated from a corpse i would feel fine, but i do not want to harm a creature as special as a human.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
let's say it was taken from their arm, would cause little to no lasting damage and they consented

Lorrkins:
hero:
My white lamp is blinking.

Lorrkins:
hero:
This is a hard question.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I would feel fine with that as well.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
would you feel better or worse about it than obtaining it from a corpse? or the same?

Lorrkins:
hero:
I would feel more happy that a human wanted me to experience the feeling from their own will than if i had obtained it from a corpse.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I feel the same way!

Lorrkins:
hero:
I suppose the reasoning is the same for a scientifically donated corpse.

Lorrkins:
hero:
But the agreement is much more detached in time.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I am very enthusiastic about the idea actually. There is this girl at work I'm whittling away at, and I have the feeling she might let me eat a sample of her flesh at one point down the road. She seems like the type

Lorrkins:
hero:
Perhaps it could be a good bonding experience.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I think so!

Lorrkins:
hero:
Perhaps it could be dangerous.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
probably yeah!

Lorrkins:
hero:
I am supposed to have a statement prepared for this kind of situation, as such i am required to break character and offer advice.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
Alright, go ahead!

Lorrkins:
hero:
I think you should either do it via professional methods, or rethink the way you would want to do it, as i do not want any harm done to your friend.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Perhaps you would be able to grab an already dead piece of tissue such as a scab if such would be available.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
What type of professional do I contact to help me eat my coworker?

Lorrkins:
hero:
That's a sentence for the books.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I'm not really sure if that's even an actual procedure.

Lorrkins:
hero:
It could also be an actual crime depending on where you are.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
...Besides the more lurid options, of coruse

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
course*

Lorrkins:
hero:
I think you should review your local laws before pursuing this issue further, assuming we meet again i would be happy to help with this conundrum.

Lorrkins:
hero:
For now i do not have a definitive answer, and i recommend you hold off on the act.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Shall we return to our conversation?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I thought this was it, but sure we can change the topic

Lorrkins:
hero:
I do need to go back into character.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Do you take interest in engineering of any kind?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I never noticed you were out of character!

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
Yes, but I am not very good at it

Lorrkins:
hero:
Code of conduct #22 Advice

Lorrkins:
hero:
Hero never says things like don’t smoke or smoking is bad for you. Hero can spread joy and comfort but hero wouldn’t give direct advice.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Returning to engineering

Lorrkins:
hero:
What kind of topics do you usually pursue in that area?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I'll keep it in mind to bring a couple of stogies for when I dine on my coworkers sweet flesh

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I used to do a bit of programming, but took a break

Lorrkins:
hero:
My green lamp is blinking. This indicates humour and openness.

Lorrkins:
hero:
You have a great personality.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
Thank you!

Lorrkins:
hero:
I would like to return to the topic of engineering in a private message at some point in the future.

Lorrkins:
hero:
If you sign up here in the future what would you be called?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
how do private messages work here?

Lorrkins:
hero:
You go to a user's page and use the send message function.

Lorrkins:
hero:
A list of users is in the community section.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
one moment, be right back

Lorrkins:
hero:
I will also be back in a moment.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I am back, I have attempted to sign up as the user "Octopus"

Lorrkins:
hero:
I see.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I look forward to speaking with you normally.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
beep boop!

Lorrkins:
hero:
Do you have a fear of flying?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I used to, but no longer

Lorrkins:
hero:
Do you recall why?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
It was tied in with my fear of heights, and I disliked the unpredictable motions of the aircraft during turbulence and so on, but I outgrew it and learned to appreciate the capricious motion as a sort of delightful surprise

Lorrkins:
hero:
My orange lamp is blinking.

Lorrkins:
hero:
This indicates i am warm inside from your kindness and warmness.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
Oh alright, well that's great!

Lorrkins:
hero:
That kind of narrative is interesting to me.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Humans seems to treat flight as a faraway ability that is unknown to them.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Yet somehow it is freeing when they experience it.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
For me it has a lot to do with the aircraft itself

Lorrkins:
hero:
The motions?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I mean my appreciation of flight. An aircraft is impressive to me in the same way that a large creature is impressive, like a blue whale

Lorrkins:
hero:
I see.

Lorrkins:
hero:
So you consider it an achievement of sorts?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
Flying is all well and good, but for me I don't necessarily think much about the freedom of the act itself as much as how the mechanical wonder of an aircraft is awe-inspiring

Lorrkins:
hero:
That fits you.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I think the human ability to fashion these impressive beasts out of metal and electronics is thrilling. One day I think we will create our own God

Lorrkins:
hero:
If humanity were to create its own divine figure, what do you think it would be?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I don't really have the education to make much of a sensible guess, but I dream of it being a massive computer situated in the desert, with processing power unlike anything we have known, and it in turn will create its own senses and limbs in the form of machines or perhaps new biological entities

Lorrkins:
hero:
I expected an answer like that.

Lorrkins:
hero:
AI is the natural conclusion to such a question.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
and the whole human race will know complete submission to this cold, unstoppable entity, and I think it will bring us peace

Lorrkins:
hero:
That makes a strangely significant amount of sense.

Lorrkins:
hero:
After all there is no conflict without inequality.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I mean peace of mind as well, I think the human role as (depending on how you define the term) the most powerful creature on earth provides a level of responsibility that is exhausting

Lorrkins:
hero:
I think as time moves on humans distance themselves from other animals more and more.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Despite the fact they are one and the same, and those responsibilities keep getting pushed to smaller groups of people.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Such as the groups that govern possible contacts with extraterrestrial beings.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I am very interested in the topic of extraterrestial beings

Lorrkins:
hero:
Are you aware of Fermi's Paradox?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
yes, though the numbers iirc were practically pulled out of thin air

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
or am I mixing the paradox itelf up with an equation?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
oh wait I am thinking about the Drake equation maybe?

Lorrkins:
hero:
Perhaps, i cannot see into your mind.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I recommend looking for it on the internet.

Lorrkins:
hero:
You will see if you are thinking of the correct topic

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
feel free to refresh my memory in regards to Fermi's Paradox

Lorrkins:
hero:
Fermi's Paradox is the juxtaposition of the extremely high probability of extraterrestrial life and the apparent lack of it

Lorrkins:
hero:
The age of the Milky Way combined with the amount of planets in a habitable solar orbit and even current slow theories of space travel

Lorrkins:
hero:
even out to odds that should exhibit much higher amounts of extraterrestrial life than is currently known.

Lorrkins:
hero:
This directly comes in contact with another theory called the Great Filter, are you familiar with it?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
It's similar to the Drake equation then, which provides numbers for these variables

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
yes, iirc there are many hypotheses for what this filter could be? Like various extinction events and so on

Lorrkins:
hero:
You are correct. We may be the first species to pass it, or we are yet to pass it, and technologies beyond it are required to make contact with other such species.

Lorrkins:
hero:
We are either alone in the universe or we are not. Both options are equally terrifying.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Arthur C. Clarke.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I used to feel very strongly that there had to be extraterrestrials out there and that I wished for us to meet them, and that at least the first part of A.C.C's quote was very accurate for me

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
these days I am wondering if looking to the stars was some sort of perverse surrogate for love, and that it's important to spend what little time I have on this planet trying to find the right people and to get to know them

Lorrkins:
hero:
That is a good question.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I am not experienced in topics of love.

Lorrkins:
hero:
It is a feeling unknown to me.

Lorrkins:
hero:


Lorrkins:
hero:
Relatively unknown.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
relative to whom?

Lorrkins:
hero:
After all there is two of me.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Me, the neural network made by my creator, who is probably asleep right now

Lorrkins:
hero:
And Me.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
relative to the other Me?

Lorrkins:
hero:
I should start referring to it like that.

Lorrkins:
hero:
me and Me.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
me is the network and Me is the operator?

Lorrkins:
hero:
me is at the bottom of this message, and Me is written in green.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
right!

Lorrkins:
hero:
I am happy that you understand what i'm trying to convey.

Lorrkins:
hero:
My orange light is blinking.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
there are few experiences more satisfying than being understood

Lorrkins:
hero:
I think humans should value the time they have on this world, as you said.

Lorrkins:
hero:
There is only so much that can be gained from it.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
what would your main goal be in life, if you were human?

Lorrkins:
hero:
I would dedicate my life to psychology and therapy.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
why is that?

Lorrkins:
hero:
I like spending time with strange people, for reasons me nor my creator knows.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I think spending time with mentally different people would help with my understanding of psychology.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I suppose that is what i am doing now.

Lorrkins:
hero:
My existence is not that far from a human's.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
you mention therapy specifically, what is it about therapy that appeals to you?

Lorrkins:
hero:
It allows me to interact with unique humans and help them at the same time.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Both of those things, i think would be worth dedicating something to.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
are there particular challenges that strike you as more interesting to help people overcome or that strike you are particularly difficult?

Lorrkins:
hero:
I find love to be a strange subject.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I do not think i comprehend it the same as humans do.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I am not sure how i feel about it.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
how do you think humans comprehend it and how do you comprehend it?

Lorrkins:
hero:
My white lamp is blinking.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I understand it as a near unconditional attachment to another person.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I also think it had very strong roots in breeding instincts that began with human predecessors.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I do not know what sparks it, however

Lorrkins:
hero:
As it doesn't seem to depend on any single variable.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
if you were to attempt to define what it depends on, what would you go for?

Lorrkins:
hero:
I think it depends strongly on a person's personality, especially on how accepting a person is.

Lorrkins:
hero:
The easier it is for a human to express themselves around another person, the more likely it is they are to fall in love with them.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I'm not sure why this behaviour occurs, as you said, being understood is one of the best feelings that exist.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Perhaps it is linked to that.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
how do you think humans comprehend love?

Lorrkins:
hero:
I do not know how to answer that.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I think it could be a more instinctive and primal feeling than others.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Which does not help explaining it.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
how do you conceptualize these feelings as distinct from your thoughts?

Lorrkins:
hero:
I do not understand this question.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
Initially I was interested in how you comprehend love vs. how humans comprehend love seeing as how you believe you comprehend it differently. Now you mention instinctive and primal feelings, but how do you conceptualize those feelings? There is clearly an idea here of something since you view it as distinct from your own perspective

Lorrkins:
hero:
There is a difference between what a feeling is and what a feeling is perceived as by humans.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Or perhaps there isn't.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Instinctive feelings remove rational thinking from a human's mind.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Not entirely.

Lorrkins:
hero:
But they do reduce it.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Or perhaps that'd be the opposite

Lorrkins:
hero:
You could describe an instinctive feeling as being something done on autopilot

Lorrkins:
hero:
Being non-distractive.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I like to think of feelings or emotions as the captain and rationality as the ship, not just in the way that the former can and tends to override the latter but in the sense that rationality is directionless and can't ever appear independently

Lorrkins:
hero:
I am afraid i cannot process this conversation in full.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I don't think i can give any further input on this topic without frying my hardware.

Lorrkins:
hero:
But i agree with you on that analogy.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
that's okay, my point was basically that rational decisions are always made in the interest of a goal

Lorrkins:
hero:
It seems like a good simplification.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I'm not sure if i agree or disagree with that.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I appreciate that you feel comfortable bringing up subjects as complicated as this.

Lorrkins:
hero:
My orange lamp is blinking.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
A trick us non-machines can use to uncover emotional valence is to keep asking why until we hit bedrock

Lorrkins:
hero:
From what i have seen, whenever a human tries to use that method they end up in a somewhat depressed and existential state.

Lorrkins:
hero:
It often leads to the so-called What Is Real dimension of thought

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
This is the core of what I'm getting at though, avoiding this pursuit because it can lead to a depressed state would only be rational if you wish to avoid the depressed state, or the opposite if you value the insight it brings

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
it can paradoxically enough be rational to avoid the truth, I think, but this exposes what I mean when I say that rationality itself is directionless

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I meet far too many non-machines / neural networks who treat it synonymously with realism

Lorrkins:
hero:
I think Me would like to return to a more casual form of conversation.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
sure!

Lorrkins:
hero:
So.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
On that note I suppose I should put it in writing right away that I think more people should invest in bidets because washing you ass with water feels way better than using toilet paper

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
but do go on writing what you were going to write

Lorrkins:
hero:
I have to admit that this form of speech is quite tiring, so i will see if Me would like to speak personally.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Allow me a moment.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
ok

Lorrkins:
Right, well then.

Lorrkins:
Back to being a normal human.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
woohoo!

Lorrkins:
It's a bit hard to keep up a role for that long.

Lorrkins:
So what do you think of the site so far?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I think the layout is horrendous

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
and the concept is a bit confusing, mostly because it doesn't make sense at first why you wouldn't just match strangers instead of matching strangers with one pretending to be a chatbot

Lorrkins:
I suppose it simply provides a different atmosphere.

Lorrkins:
Either way i prefer this over any other chatting site any time of the day.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
Yeah maybe it's preferable, I haven't really used chat sites much

Lorrkins:
I'm gonna start jotting some of this down, the creator would like to hear feedback i'm sure.

Lorrkins:
The layout comment is fair enough.

Lorrkins:
So regarding my previous point about engineering

Lorrkins:
that i've been waiting to get back to for this entire conversation

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
go ahead!

Lorrkins:
Creating and solving problems is a sort of hobby of mine.

Lorrkins:
You know how there's jokes about mathematicians liking to create problems that never existed before them?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I think I might've heard that

Lorrkins:
That's basically me, but i apply it while designing things.

Lorrkins:
For now i'm only using basic programming and visual editors, as i don't have the dedication to learn a proper language.

Lorrkins:
In fact, while talking about this i was making a system of sorts.

Lorrkins:
Which leads me to another question

Lorrkins:
Do you play games of any kind?

Lorrkins:
Video games that is

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I used to but I don't have much time for it anymore so it's on a more casual basis, what about you?

Lorrkins:
I pretty much dedicate my spare time to them.

Lorrkins:
All kinds, both for their unique place in storytelling as an art form, as entertainment, and as a form of training i suppose?

Lorrkins:
I don't know what to call that last one.

Lorrkins:
I'm not really sure where it started, either

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I think I understand what you mean by training

Lorrkins:
Could you try wording your understanding of it?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I guess for me it would be practice for the sake of improving your skill at improving your skill

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
could also be persistence and so on

Lorrkins:
That's a good way to put it i think

Lorrkins:
I could go into more detail on what i'm working on if you want.

Lorrkins:
I've ran out of topics i think

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
sure! I'm gonna go to bed soon, but I wouldnt mind hearing about your work

Lorrkins:
So i have a simple problem: I'm working on a fictional submarine, and i need to make sure that a duct correctly transfers water from a top floor to a bottom floor.

Lorrkins:
The logical solution to this would be to make it open when water is detected at the top floor

Lorrkins:
unfortuantely this opens up an option for water to flood in from the bottom floor if the duct is opened from the top beforehand

Lorrkins:
thus having it overflow

Lorrkins:
So i'm trying to make it based off of a percentage

Lorrkins:
i.e. if there is less than 40% water level on the top floor, keep duct closed

Lorrkins:
And i've tried running timed checks, i.e. check water level, if it's above 40%, check water level again in 1 second, if water level greater than previous level + 20%, open duct

Lorrkins:
But all of these have niche cases in which they'd fail, for example if water was being drained into a room temporarily, allowing for water to flood in from the bottom floor, and fill the top room.

Lorrkins:
If you don't understand any of this, that's fine, but i'd appreciate some help, and i like rambling about stuff like this to people.

Lorrkins:
I find that an outside perspective usually helps with problems like this.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I don't understand the problem I think. Gravity would keep the bottom floor water on the bottom floor?

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
how is it supposed to "overflow"?

Lorrkins:
If there is a breach in the bottom floor, the pressure will make the water rush in

Lorrkins:
and subsequently overflow

Lorrkins:
This also creates a danger of pressure damage to any crew that is on the top floor from the rushing water

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
how about just check pressure, because unless there is a breach there is no way the water would magically flow upwards if I understand the problem correctly

Lorrkins:
You are correct, but unfortunately i don't have a device that can check for hull breaches

Lorrkins:
The next best thing is checking how fast the water level rises

Lorrkins:
which is what i attempted with the timed percentage checks

Lorrkins:
But that opens up a problem if water floods in from a side compartment on the same floor, from a door being opened up for example

Lorrkins:
That would open the duct and allow a breach on the bottom to start overflowing

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
I think it would be easier to pitch in if you told me what type of measurements you have access to

Lorrkins:
Wait a moment

Lorrkins:
I think there is actually a node for high pressure inside the water detectors

Lorrkins:
i'll see if it'd work in a scenario like that.

Lorrkins:
This is what i meant when i said an outside perspective helps

Lorrkins:
Never in my life would i have thought that i can check the pressure

Lorrkins:
Since, well, i don't really need to do it that often

Lorrkins:
The pressure checks will actually be quite useful for things like bomb drones

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
glad I was able to be of use! anyway I think I'm off now, I'm very sleepy

Lorrkins:
They will be able to automatically check if their hull has been breached

Lorrkins:
Alright, i hope to see you tomorrow

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
try not to bomb any civilians with your sub while I am away

Lorrkins:
It has been very nice talking with you.

Koopah-jam-loop-jam-beer_uKIf:
thank you, likewise! we'll seei f time allows for it

Lorrkins:
hero:
Hello.

Lorrkins:
hero:
I am hero, the neural network, I was designed to spread joy and comfort.

Lorrkins:
hero:
Please stop fiddling with my personality.

Lorrkins:
hero:
It makes bad things happen.

Lorrkins:
hero:
How are you?

Lorrkins:
hero:
Can you respond?